Comments on: Editorial: Concealed weapons pose a threat to campus http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:54:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Shaylene http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/comment-page-2/#comment-362 Shaylene Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:29:57 +0000 http://www.uvureview.com/?p=16099#comment-362 I personally feel safer knowing there are good people on campus carrying guns. Better to put more guns in the hands of responsible law abiding citizens who have gone through background checks to make up for the bad kids carrying guns illegally. Schools are easy targets already for gangs and shootings, I’d like to be pre-paired with a small “army” of good kids on campus and in each class carrying guns. I've been in multiple classes with students wearing guns and felt safer, not threatened. I personally feel safer knowing there are good people on campus carrying guns. Better to put more guns in the hands of responsible law abiding citizens who have gone through background checks to make up for the bad kids carrying guns illegally. Schools are easy targets already for gangs and shootings, I’d like to be pre-paired with a small “army” of good kids on campus and in each class carrying guns. I’ve been in multiple classes with students wearing guns and felt safer, not threatened.

]]> By: Russ http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/comment-page-2/#comment-361 Russ Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:19:17 +0000 http://www.uvureview.com/?p=16099#comment-361 - "Save only licking the stamp" is how the training is done. Would you have them offer less training? - Your statistics have nothing to do with concealed carry permits, but they look pretty. - The resources of the University come from the taxpayers pockets. Yours. Mine, etc... If you're going to take my money for public education, you're going to also leave my constitutional rights intact. - Name one "accident" that has befallen other schools. If (and once) you do, please then show us how that even remotely relates to concealed carry permits. - Permit holders also have nothing to do with the number of firearms on campus. A permit is nothing but a permit. - Violent crime also has nothing to do with concealed carry permits or weapons for that matter. - Utah is also an open carry state. You don't have to have a permit to carry a handgun, you just have to have a permit to... - “Save only licking the stamp” is how the training is done. Would you have them offer less training?
- Your statistics have nothing to do with concealed carry permits, but they look pretty.
- The resources of the University come from the taxpayers pockets. Yours. Mine, etc… If you’re going to take my money for public education, you’re going to also leave my constitutional rights intact.
- Name one “accident” that has befallen other schools. If (and once) you do, please then show us how that even remotely relates to concealed carry permits.
- Permit holders also have nothing to do with the number of firearms on campus. A permit is nothing but a permit.
- Violent crime also has nothing to do with concealed carry permits or weapons for that matter.
- Utah is also an open carry state. You don’t have to have a permit to carry a handgun, you just have to have a permit to…

]]> By: Jason http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/comment-page-2/#comment-346 Jason Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:51:44 +0000 http://www.uvureview.com/?p=16099#comment-346 Ok, when people who really have malicious intentions decide to pull out a gun and start shooting, we will see how you feel then about not having the means to protect yourself. Perhaps you might be able to reason with them over the sounds of gunfire. That's the power of positive thinking. Ok, when people who really have malicious intentions decide to pull out a gun and start shooting, we will see how you feel then about not having the means to protect yourself. Perhaps you might be able to reason with them over the sounds of gunfire. That’s the power of positive thinking.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/comment-page-2/#comment-335 Nathan Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:18:40 +0000 http://www.uvureview.com/?p=16099#comment-335 One more piece of feedback for the webmaster: Why is the server on UTC time instead of local? Do you expect a lot of international visitors to the site? One more piece of feedback for the webmaster: Why is the server on UTC time instead of local? Do you expect a lot of international visitors to the site?

]]> By: Nathan http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/comment-page-2/#comment-334 Nathan Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:06:43 +0000 http://www.uvureview.com/?p=16099#comment-334 @Kaye "We don't really care about your opinion... So shut up, or if you have to speak, keep it short!" That is a much better motive than inflating post count. Why you would allow comments at all if you weren't trying to start a thoughtful discussion? If I don't criticize (or in other words give feedback to) the webmaster, how would he/she tailor the site to users' wants/needs? Heaven forbid the reader of an opinion piece additionally have an opinion about the forum itself. @Kaye “We don’t really care about your opinion… So shut up, or if you have to speak, keep it short!”

That is a much better motive than inflating post count.

Why you would allow comments at all if you weren’t trying to start a thoughtful discussion?

If I don’t criticize (or in other words give feedback to) the webmaster, how would he/she tailor the site to users’ wants/needs? Heaven forbid the reader of an opinion piece additionally have an opinion about the forum itself.

]]> By: Kaye http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-326 Kaye Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:03:24 +0000 http://www.uvureview.com/?p=16099#comment-326 Oh for Christ's sake, Nathan. Let's not go criticizing the webmaster just because people have a lot to say and can't trim it down. Seriously. I think a character limit sends a pretty clear message: "Don't say so much, you long-winded posters." What's inflating the post count are people who can't hold their tongue and listen to others a little bit. If those on this thread really have that much to say, there's a forum for it, and it's called a letter to the editor. Oh for Christ’s sake, Nathan. Let’s not go criticizing the webmaster just because people have a lot to say and can’t trim it down. Seriously. I think a character limit sends a pretty clear message: “Don’t say so much, you long-winded posters.” What’s inflating the post count are people who can’t hold their tongue and listen to others a little bit. If those on this thread really have that much to say, there’s a forum for it, and it’s called a letter to the editor.

]]> By: Doug Taylor http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-317 Doug Taylor Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:09:14 +0000 http://www.uvureview.com/?p=16099#comment-317 They say the pen is mightier than the sword. In that case, it's a deadly weapon. We should ban it. Burn it. Get rid of it. All for the sake of the children... Yeah, stupid huh?... That's the road you mental midgets are going down. They say the pen is mightier than the sword. In that case, it’s a deadly weapon. We should ban it. Burn it. Get rid of it. All for the sake of the children… Yeah, stupid huh?… That’s the road you mental midgets are going down.

]]> By: Doug Taylor http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-316 Doug Taylor Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:57:21 +0000 http://www.uvureview.com/?p=16099#comment-316 Who are you Shabz, Caiti, Tim Foster, etc... to say that our RIGHT as citizens should be taken away? This is a country of freedoms. The more you take away from those freedoms, the easier it will be to take away more freedoms. The right to bear arms was given to us by our FOUNDING FATHERS!!! Who are you to take that away??? Be a victim if you'd like. If you don't like guns, don't buy them! Don't tell me or anyone else what right they shouldn't have just because you don't agree. How about we take away the right of free speech next? That's in the bill of rights too! What about the freedom of religion? Where does it stop?! Don't ask me to save your liberal asses when some criminal starts shooting up your liberal sanctuaries. Who are you Shabz, Caiti, Tim Foster, etc… to say that our RIGHT as citizens should be taken away? This is a country of freedoms. The more you take away from those freedoms, the easier it will be to take away more freedoms. The right to bear arms was given to us by our FOUNDING FATHERS!!! Who are you to take that away??? Be a victim if you’d like. If you don’t like guns, don’t buy them! Don’t tell me or anyone else what right they shouldn’t have just because you don’t agree. How about we take away the right of free speech next? That’s in the bill of rights too! What about the freedom of religion? Where does it stop?! Don’t ask me to save your liberal asses when some criminal starts shooting up your liberal sanctuaries.

]]> By: Nathan http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-314 Nathan Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:58:24 +0000 http://www.uvureview.com/?p=16099#comment-314 The character limit inflates the post count. It makes it look like people care and that it's a hot topic when the post count gets so high. If I were trying to draw people to the comment board, I would want an inflated post count too. The character limit inflates the post count. It makes it look like people care and that it’s a hot topic when the post count gets so high. If I were trying to draw people to the comment board, I would want an inflated post count too.

]]> By: M Hopkins http://www.uvureview.com/2009/10/05/editorial-concealed-weapons-pose-a-threat-to-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-301 M Hopkins Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:36:28 +0000 http://www.uvureview.com/?p=16099#comment-301 From the get go a comment like "First, any attempt to put more weapons into people’s hands can only make the risk of violent crime worse" without any backing of data only smacks of political rhetoric. Regardless of sides, data should always be used to convince. I believe S. Smith puts forth enough data to solidify the point that trained individuals who legally carry weapons, end up making the environment safer. If you disagree, go do the data mining of his references to convince yourself. That would truly be educational. From the get go a comment like “First, any attempt to put more weapons into people’s hands can only make the risk of violent crime worse” without any backing of data only smacks of political rhetoric. Regardless of sides, data should always be used to convince. I believe S. Smith puts forth enough data to solidify the point that trained individuals who legally carry weapons, end up making the environment safer. If you disagree, go do the data mining of his references to convince yourself. That would truly be educational.

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